Oct 10 2013

Inspiration :: The Ray Hill Hatz

20131010-064850.jpgI follow the Antique Airplane Association on Facebook, and they recently posted the photo on the right. It is of a Hatz CB-1 built by Ray and Dorothy Hill, finished in the early 1980’s. Ray sold the airplane to Jeff Cain in 1995, who still owns the airplane. N8032Y has just been restored by Ron Sieck, a close friend of Ray’s before Ray passed away in 2007. Ron also built the award-winning Hatz Classic N230RS, with Ray’s technical support.

The finish Ron has applied to Ray’s airplane is truly beautiful. Classic, clean, and not one bit over the top. I think I might just try to recreate something similar on my Baby Ace when it’s ready. I think it will be a great match for the design.

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  1. Dan Johnson

    Mr. Pickering, the builder of your ace very recently passed. He was a very generous mentor. He gave me a job mowing the runway and helping with annual inspections when I was 14 years old. He was an excellent craftsman, an IA, and overall devoted to helping other experimenters.

    His ace as well as its sister ship, built by Denver Guthrie were great performers. I don’t believe there was ever any problem with the balance and handling with either of the original builders behind the stick. However, each was damaged, (Mr Pickering’s much more lightly) with a guest at the controls. I had to smile reading about the Flippers for trim. I don’t think anyone would argue they were a bit conspicuous, but apparently they were pleasantly effective.

    I’m glad to see the plane is receiving some care. It is deserving. Just wanted to pass along a few comments to let you know you have a special plane built by a man you’d have been proud to know. I was.

    Good work and Good luck with your restoration.

    BTW, if you kept the the n Number or C&D aeroworks logo parts of the fabric…i’ll pay you the shipping to have them to remember my friend.

  2. Dan Johnson

    There is also a kind of neat story why the gear is in silver in the photos. I can’t tell all of it here. I went to see Charlie one day and the fuselage was on jack stands and the engine was on the hoist. The 85 that was on it was a nice engine and had a lot of value. It was going to go one way, the gear had already gone another and the engine had been sold to a third party.

    Charlie had reason to think he was finished with his ace, but I really let him know I thought he was letting it go too cheap and too early. I was really happy to see the next time I visited he had not gone thru with the engine sale and had built new main gear. It was being fitted at that time and was uncovered.

    I looked at buying the plane from him a few years ago. I couldn’t give him what he needed with the 85 and there was some talk about going to the 65…it didn’t happen just then, but maybe it planted the seed for the swap?

    Again, good to see the plane in caring hands.

    1. Whiskey Bravo


      I still have a great deal of the fabric, including the logo and registration numbers. I have not yet pulled the fabric off the tail, but both sides of the fuselage are off and stored in my garage. I’d be happy to share them with you.

      I’ll be in touch via email soon.


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